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A few thoughts on the firing of Illinois Professor Ken Howell for airing his gay-hating Catholicism

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Hold your church’s millenia-old beliefs at your own risk?

University of Illinois Instructor Fired Over Catholic Beliefs
Published July 09, 2010

URBANA, Ill. — The University of Illinois has fired an adjunct professor who taught courses on Catholicism after a student accused the instructor of engaging in hate speech Professor Ken Howellby saying he agrees with the church’s teaching that homosexual sex is immoral . .

Howell, who taught Introduction to Catholicism and Modern Catholic Thought, says he was fired at the end of the spring semester after sending an e-mail explaining some Catholic beliefs to his students preparing for an exam.

“Natural Moral Law says that Morality must be a response to REALITY,” he wrote in the e-mail. “In other words, sexual acts are only appropriate for people who are complementary, not the same.”

An unidentified student sent an e-mail to religion department head Robert McKim on May 13, calling Howell’s e-mail “hate speech.” The student claimed to be a friend of the offended student. The writer said in the e-mail that his friend wanted to remain anonymous.

“Teaching a student about the tenets of a religion is one thing,” the student wrote. “Declaring that homosexual acts violate the natural laws of man is another.”

This is a tough call. On its face, the professor’s case seems like a reasonable one: if he makes it clear that he’s airing his beliefs, then what’s the harm? It’s a venerated tradition in university settings to allow personal views to be expressed without them limiting or defining the intellectual discussion. In a best case scenario, one’s personal feelings can be ultimately changed by a decent battle of ideas. One realm is considered to be both bigger and more rigorous than the other.

But then intellectual arguments can be slippery. Your position can change pretty quickly depending upon the day, the arguers and the facts on hand at the time. Your beliefs are much more likely to be solid and un-changing.

So I can understand that a gay man would take offense at hearing that his professor believed him to be ‘immoral’ in both the religious and natural sense. You can’t imagine a professor saying the same thing about someone who happened to be black. Even if it’s only his silly belief, even if it’s merely (ostensibly) in a classroom discussion, it’s probably shocking and painful to hear.

So, how did we get to this unfortunate place, where a professor’s routine (for many Catholics) beliefs ended up getting him fired? It sounds like some sort of law has been broken, doesn’t it?

It’s because this particular religious belief is dangerously out of step with modern thinking and understanding. Specifically, religious folks Here we are!who damn what appear to be a group of behaviors, homosexuality, are actually damning a whole group of people. It’s tantamount to hate speech.

Even if it’s a sacred part of your religion, why should society tolerate this? Calling murder, or incest, or even theft a sin is a valuable tenet from society’s point of view: these behaviors cause damage to people. Society seeks to prevent and punish such things.

But the key difference that swings the religious view to publicly intolerable is that homosexuality is no crime: there’s no victim by definition in a routine, consensual homosexual act. In a civilized society, two adults certainly should be able to engage in this manner without condemnation or harassment. Or being barred from society’s benefits, or barred from work, or their animal persecutors being barred from prosecutions and imprisonment.

Especially when, as we are aware now, homosexuals appear to be born homosexual. It is almost always the case that a gay person will tell you that they have no recollection of ever being any different. I have no reason to doubt them. And any intention to disregard these memories because one prefers to view the reporters as morally flawed is a callow one.

Homosexuals are simply born gay, there’s no debate on this any more. So, when you call their behavior — natural behavior — unnatural or immoral or evil, it’s not just factually wrong, it’s an egregious act. You can try to hide behind whatever you like, but the net result is the same: it’s particularly uncivilized speech. You’re harming society. Period.

Thus, a college professor gets fired. Understandably, fired.

There was a time, centuries ago, when religion led society as a moralizing, civilizing power. It taught people to obey the rules, to respect life, to love one another and to get along when little was known of the natural world, or the people in the next hamlet, or county, or country. The secular world wasn’t quick to learn, but there’s no denying that religion worked as perhaps the only major institution to enlighten it.

Now, it seems as if the roles have reversed: it’s society which seeks to drag religion into the new world. I see no reason to be shy about expanding secularism’s role here as long as we can agree that it’s not anything to be taken lightly. The facts that homosexuality has always been and always will be part of humans’ existence, is a naturally occurring expression of sexuality and is a positive, not remotely criminal, way of behaving are damning of religion’s moribund or alabaster responses to the discovery of truths. If religions now refuse to honestly accept or discuss man’s essential worldly and spiritual characteristics, then we’ll be forced to shift the heeding of voices wholly into the public, secular realm.

This discourse, absent of ancient religious dogma, then becomes more than a cosmopolitan exercise, it becomes critically important for us to function in a meaningful way. It carries a bigger, more universal responsibility than it once did. And maybe it’s time that it should — do we really need to indulge people who believe that “sexual acts are only appropriate for people who areSexually uncomplementary. And demonically possessed. complementary, not the same”? That’s an argument conspiratorially stupid, one that any decent high-schooler would shred in mere seconds. For someone like me, with a background in Genetics, it’s a howler.

Well, then, what should the poor professor have done? After all, they’re only his personal beliefs, right? Yes — but his beliefs are insulting to civilized society. Sounds bad, but that’s because it is bad. Iron-clad religion can be very bad for us, and that’s a truth we’ve got to openly admit to if we’re to do right by our fellow man. If we’re to do more than pretend to make a moral world for everyone to exist in, we’re demanded to say it.

A wise professor might wonder if stating his beliefs, though they be held dear, amounts to categorically abominating a blameless fellow man. Society only increasingly sees this as anachronistic bigotry. I’ll ask that he refrain from it at the University, or at any other public place.

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University of Illinois prof fired over stating his Catholic beliefs

bigots, christianists, gays, wingnuts

University of Illinois Instructor Fired Over Catholic Beliefs
Published July 09, 2010

URBANA, Ill. — The University of Illinois has fired an adjunct professor who taught courses on Catholicism after a student accused the instructor of engaging in hate speech by saying he agrees with the church’s teaching that homosexual sex is immoral.

The professor, Ken Howell of Champaign, said his firing violates his academic freedom. He also lost his job at an on-campus Catholic center.

religious thoughtHowell, who taught Introduction to Catholicism and Modern Catholic Thought, says he was fired at the end of the spring semester after sending an e-mail explaining some Catholic beliefs to his students preparing for an exam.

“Natural Moral Law says that Morality must be a response to REALITY,” he wrote in the e-mail. “In other words, sexual acts are only appropriate for people who are complementary, not the same . .”


. . been thinking about this for a couple of days, will throw in my 2 cents later. [NOTE: the next day's thoughts, here.]

Meanwhile, take in some Freeper reaction:


I fully expect that one day a bunch of faggots will beat down my door and kill me, or someone who thinks/speaks/looks like me. ‘Course, I’ll mow down six of them on the way, and so there’s a good side to the story.

posted on Friday, July 09, 2010 3:13:33 PM by MarineBrat


So, the faggots step up their attacks on the Catholic Church. No big surprise.

Hey Protestants! Those of you whose churches haven’t already capitulated to the queers, brace for collision! The sodomites will be after you, next.

posted on Friday, July 09, 2010 3:28:24 PM by ArrogantBustard


Hers’s with some commentary on the letter …

“I am in no way a gay rights activist”

Of course. I just like the odd buttsecks now and again …

“I can only imagine how ashamed and uncomfortable a gay student would feel if he/she were to take this course. “

Of course you can. Because you like the buttsecks.

‘I am a heterosexual male”

Thanks for telling us. So that one time where you enjoyed the buttsecks didn’t make me gay. but don’t let anyone tell you that enjoying buttsecks is wrong.

‘Also, my friend also told me that the teacher allowed little room for any opposition to Catholic dogma”

Oh, this is a beauty. ‘My friend said’, ie, I have zero proof that the professor actually said this and I’m repeating hearsay.

“limiting the marketplace of ideas”

by expressing opinions that I disagree with.

buttsecks-1“Leslie Morrow, director of the LGBT Resource Center
Siobhan Somerville, a former teacher of mine and the founder of the queer studies major.’

Who happen to like the buttsecks too. I’m telling on you so that they can smack you down.

“I didn’t go to Notre Dame for a reason”

No, because I wanted my love of buttsecks to be confirmed.

posted on Friday, July 09, 2010 4:00:19 PM by BenKenobi


Thank you for the links to the emails! I cannot believe the student thinks the teacher’s email is hate speech…HATE speech!?!

Whether or not someone thinks homosexuality is OK, it’s obvious that, based on natural moral law, homosexuality is immoral. That’s a perfectly reasonable and rational opinion, because two males are obviously not designed to mate with each other. Again, I stress it doesn’t matter whether someone thinks homosexuality is immoral or not. The teacher’s express point was that homosexuality is considered immoral based on natural moral law. That TRUE, even though the student’s fragile mind couldn’t grasp the point.

What’s really amazing? The student actually claimed classes should encourage independent thought and public discourse while engaging in an attack on the very same things!!!

posted on Friday, July 09, 2010 4:17:05 PM by CitizenUSA

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Didn't I just post on the rising tide of this racist bullshit, like, four days ago? Anti-reform AMA Delegate e-mails Obama 'witchdoctor' image.

*holes, healthcare reform, race

Yeah, I just checked, it was a little more than four days:
Does Obama’s presidency make the racists more brazen, more comfortable spewing their filth?

…to which the conveniently named ‘Mr. Roach‘ immediately responded:

‘Pretty self-righteous considering all the hateful stuff spewed at Bush–i.e., Bush-Hitler, Bush the Chimp etc.–not to mention the nastiness at Sara Palin. There’s angry people out there in both parties, and Obama is offending basic American constitutional values every day. He and his supporters should stop being so thin skinned or quit, better yet, just quit.’

Mr. Roach – July 19, 2009 at 7:38 pm


Well, straight from the horse’s ass–it’s not gonna stop because Republicans are ‘angry’. So here we are again, with the latest piece of shit:

Read about it over at good ol’ TPM Muckraker, they have the goods on the guy. He’s only a neurosurgeon, ferchrissakes…

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Does Obama's presidency make the racists more brazen, more comfortable spewing their filth?

*holes, race

It sure looks like it. I can’t remember a time when there were so many stories of unapologetic racists in the political world. Used to be that acting this way was a bad thing, was scorned.


Zell Miller: Rahm should use ‘Gorilla Glue’ to keep Obama in his chair.

In 2004, then-Democratic Sen. Zell Miller (GA) threw his support behind President Bush with an angry speech attacking Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) at the Republican National Convention. Apparently, the passage of time hasn’t softened Miller’s anger. Yesterday, he continued his assault on the left while speaking to more than 1,000 mostly-Republican lawmakers from around the country. Miller punctuated his speech with a not-too-subtle racial barb at President Obama, saying he needs to stop meeting with foreign heads of state and that Rahm Emanuel ought to get some “Gorilla Glue” to keep Obama tied to his chair in the Oval Office:

He drew more applause from the mostly Republican legislators who packed a downtown Atlanta hotel ballroom when he said Obama needed to spend more time in Washington and less time traveling abroad.

“Our globe-trotting president needs to stop and take a break and quit gallivanting around,” Miller said, adding that White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel needs to put “Gorilla Glue” on his chair to keep him in the Oval Office.





Questions raised about councilman’s conduct after discovery of racist e-mails

ATWATER — In the past several months Atwater City Councilman Gary Frago has sent at least a half-dozen e-mails to city staff and other prominent community members containing racist jokes aimed at President Barack Obama, his wife and black people in general.

In all, the Sun-Star obtained seven e-mails that Frago sent from October 2008 to February 2009 from an anonymous source.

Some compared Obama to O.J. Simpson while others suggested that “nigger rigs” should now be called “presidential solutions.”

Perhaps the most overboard e-mail was sent on Jan. 15. It read: “Breaking News Playboy just offered Sarah Palin $1 million to pose nude in the January issue. Michelle Obama got the same offer from National Geographic.”

Frago admitted sending the e-mails, but showed no regret. “If they’re from me, then I sent them,” he said. “I have no disrespect for the president or anybody, they weren’t meant in any bad way or harm.”

The list of people who either sent or received the e-mails reads like a who’s who of Atwater community and political leadership, including a county supervisor, a former police chief, a city manager, a former city council member, a former president of a veterans group, a former grand knight of the Knights of Columbus, among others…

Most of the recipients said they do not recall receiving the e-mails and several of the senders either do not remember sending them or claim they were not meant to be harmful.

Still, a few of the senders and a recipient said they saw no harm in any of the jokes sent.

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And they wonder why Corporate America collapsed…

business, culture, dang

Just forwarded to me:

From: Kerry Xxxxx
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 8:45 AM
To: Hubbard Xxxxx
Cc: Robert Xxxxx
Subject: New laptop

Hey Hub

Robert set up my new laptop on Tuesday and all is good.  I also asked if I could keep my extra power cord – since I travel so much, and extra cord is so helpful.

Thanks so much

Kerry

From: Hubbard Xxxxx
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 10:12 AM
To: Kerry Xxxxx
Cc: Robert Xxxxx
Subject: RE: New laptop

Please send a formal request to me for an additional power cord we like to keep the cords with the original equipment for inventory purposes

From: Kerry Xxxxx
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 9:36 AM
To: Hubbard Xxxxx
Cc: Robert Xxxxx
Subject: RE: New laptop

Sure – what would a formal request look like?  Is there a form?

From: Hubbard Xxxxx
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 10:36 AM
To: Kerry Xxxxx
Cc: Robert Xxxxx
Subject: RE: New laptop

No just a e-mail to me requesting and additional power cord

From: Kerry Xxxxx
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 10:47 AM
To: Hubbard Xxxxx
Cc: Robert Xxxxx
Subject: RE: New laptop

May I have an extra power cord.

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E-mails between Republican clown Governor Sanford and far-flung mistress Maria tell of relationship a year old

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From: Mark Sanford

To: Maria

Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 03:09:44 +0000

Dearest,

You are glorious and I hope you really understand that. You do not need a therapist to help you figure your place in the world. You are special and unique and fabulous in a whole host of ways that are worth a much longer conversation. To be continued …

Have been having a few email problems as I am getting email through an aircard at the farm, where access to computer world is more than tough. Please let me know if you have gotten my last two eamils (sic) so I know it is working in getting to your part of the world …

Another glorious day outside. Hope you are doing well, and am anxious to hear about your week. Know that I miss you. Unbeleivably (sic) hard to imagine it has been a week. Please also send your mailing address as I want to send you an insignificant something next week when I am back in civilization that I think you might find interesting given our conversation.

Want to write an indepth note with some thoughts on our visit when I know you are getting these emails. Hugs and much love. M

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From: Maria

Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 4:26 PM

To: Mark Sanford

Subject: RE:

My beloved, (hope you also change the dearest …)

I’am (sic) reading your last two mails sitting outside with a great seaview here in Ilhabela, a beautiful island near Sao Paulo. Have been thinking of you while watching the beautiful blue sea (a) great part of my day and remembering with a great smile on my face, the time we had spent together. As I told you before, you brought happiness and love to my life and (I) will take you forever in my heart. I wasn’t aware till we met last week, the strong feelings I had for you, and believe me, I haven’t felt this since I was in my teen ages, when afterwards I got married. I do love you, I can feel it in my heart, and although I don’t know if we’ll ever be able to meet again this has been the best that has happened to me in a long time You made me realized (sic) how you feel when you realy (sic) love somebody and how much you want to be beside the beloved. Last Friday I would had stayed embrassing (sic) and kissing you forever.

Don’t know why you think you bore me with the description of your farm. I am an urban girl but that doesn’t inhibit me from loving other things, specially if they are the ones you love. I was able to imagine the place with every single detail you wrote and had trassmitted (sic) me the love you have for your farm. It sounds to be a great and peaceful place and loved you had shared it with me.

Thanks for your beautiful words, I don’t know if I do need or not therapy but I have to find my new place in this new stage of my life. Life has been very generous with me and I want to return at least a little bit of what I have been given. I have time and think helping others who haven’t been as lucky as me will do me fine.

My address is (deleted by The State). It will be great finding at home once I am back, whatever you send me, I’ll keep it near my bed so as to feel you nearer.

Miss you so much… love you from the deepest of my heart. Sweet kisses.

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